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Nostalgia Critic doesn't like Pokemon very much.


Misty: me
NC: Chris
Ash: ???
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~RayquazaMaster Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
To be fair, it was the dub of the movie that he reviewed. And 4Kids isn't exactly a good dubbing company. :P
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:iconmoonymonster:
No no no. You have that wrong. 4Kids is an awesome company. The problem is, they don't actually follow the script of the anime they're dubbing.If they did, Ash and Misty would've stopped being an item after Orange Islands :P
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~RayquazaMaster Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
True, but they messed up so much from the original Japanese version.
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:iconmoonymonster:
I know. The reason I think they're awesome is because they often make the English version hilarious by accident. YGO in English is so horrible that it comes right back round the bend into awesome, and a lot of first season is like that too. The Japanese *is* better, because they like, care and stuff, but the English is funny.

That aside, still think the one place they did screw up hard was the first movie. -_- It's just awful. Almost as bad as the Digimon movie. But even bad dubbing can't take away from Ash trying to punch Mewtwo in the face. That's just AWESOME XD
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~RayquazaMaster Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Ah, I completely agree! XD
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:iconcorodo:
He never grew up with it so that's kinda why he bashed the first Pokemon movie...
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:iconmoonymonster:
Plus the English version is horrible. Japanese is much better, the English cut out a good 20 minutes of Mewtwo's backstory.
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:iconcorodo:
Which makes it hard to critique the first movie if its a person's FIRST viewing of the Pokemon movie, without knowledge that the dub might have mistranlated essential scenes in the movie, particularly where they just say fighting in general is wrong when it shoulve been more specific about the nature of fighting. Though what wouldve really helped was that Pokemon intro which clearly explains the foundations of both the Pokemon universe (again, battling is purely a sport and harsh cruely from the trainer is in fact looked down upon) and Ash's role in the series. That way, he wouldn't have had that "What's a Pokemon?!?!?" rant
Regardless, I still had my laughs during his review regardless of his overall opinion
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He had legit points. It doesn't matter if it's the person's first experience with Pokemon, or if they knew there was a Japanese version or not; the movie should have been able to stand on its own as a movie that could create a world, present it, and have a halfway decent storyline just like *any other movie ever made*. Movies are supposed to create a backstory, then create a situation, and explain it to the viewer so they don't get lost--most movies are stand-alone movies and can't depend on the viewer having any previous experience either. And hey, ya know what? They usually get OSCARS for doing that. Pokemon, yeah, Pokemon didn't even begin to try. Digimon had the same problem. The later Pokemon movies covered the problems the first one had, like having the narrator explain how the world works and actually establishing character, but the first Pokemon movie could not stand on its own two feet if it tried and had a terrible 'moral' besides. Fighting is wrong, now that we've learned the lesson let's completely forget it so we can continue fighting? Yeah. Wow.

I like the movie. I accept, though, that it's very poorly written. It COULD have been better, but it wasn't. This doesn't stop me from writing fanfiction based off of it, of course, because I want to fill in the damn plotholes. But still. It's really a terrible movie *as a movie*. If it had been a Pokemon episode, where people were expected to know the world and all that, it would've been fine. Mewtwo Returns was TV only and it was FANTASTIC. But as something that was supposed to stand on its own, establish itself and explain itself, it was an utter failure.
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Perhaps, but at least as a viewer and avid fan of the series, I, along with many others, could still appreciate certain themes and characters from the movie, particularly Mewtwo's background.
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